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And I promise you'll get it. Sorry in advance if you're offended, hurt or pissed off with the result. If you want an ass kissing there are plenty of other people on this site that will line up to do so. Maybe you should ask your Mom. Unless your Mom is a bitch and never tells you what an awesome artist you are, no matter how hard to try to please her....MOM WHY DON'T YOU LOVE MEEEEE....? *ahem* back to what I was saying. I'm not your Mom. I won't blow sunshine up your ass. You deserve better. I'll try to be nice but like I said, that's not my job. If your stuff is great, I'll tell you. If it needs work, I'll tell you what I think you can do to be better. If you're a grown ass man, and your stuff looks like a 12 year old drew it, well.....

The reason I'm writing this is because someone who uses computer puppet programs like poser to do 95% of their "art" asked me if I thought DC or Marvel would ever hire a guy like him. I told him "I hope not". I went on from there and you can read it in my front page comments. Was I a bit harsh? Sure. But that whole letting the computer do everything for you isn't what I can art. It actually pisses me off. Computers are tools, not artists. It's why Pixar blows the doors off the guys who just cranked out "Mars needs Moms". And I guess I'm not alone in my opinion, because that piece of crap movie is looking like it'll be one of the biggest flops in recent times. Why? Because it lacks soul. If I want to see realistically rendered things I'll look at a photograph. If I want to see great comic book art, I prefer to see a human using his/her hand. Even if it's only on a Wacom.

Just my opinion. Take it or leave it.

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Zaiachi Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Honest people. It's a dying breed if not rare. Kudos on the honest opinion. I mean I'm not so great an artist, but I do try to draw as much as I can without the help of programs that'll do all the work. Takes out the thrill in making the art. Just me and my trusty Wacom. Because I cant seem to buy a sketchpad these days.
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AngryPermitClerk Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Nice to know you haven't changed. :)
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Attache Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011
I'm guessing that the main problem is a lot of artists confuse you for their mother. I know that the goatee and the pipe threw me! :confused:
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grobles63 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2011
First let me say I agree whole heartedly with Mr. Johnson, If you use the computer to create 95% of the art it does show. Secondly, there have been a lot of things, artwork, artist and illustrators that were once very popular but did not have staying power over the years and have been forgotten. There have also been artist who were under appreciated either in their own time or their work got lost because of some new fashion in art and then reemerged years latter, Leyendecker is a good example. Heck, Shakespeare was considered great in his day but there were other people in his own time who were slated for immortality. Isikol, you can always find someone that likes what you do but you ask someones opinion only if you want to grow. I have to admit though, that I've had very patient and generous instructors, not the kind that would change your diaper- they did not lack for honesty, but they understood where you were at, (by the way the problem with Poser is that no one can really tell what your skill level is), I also had the hard nosed beat you down types, where you just had to develope a thick skin and take away what you can,I can tolerate that but I tended to gravitate to the more patient ones. I would, however, trade off those hurt feelings for the chance to learn from someone whose work I have a deep respect for, and Dave Johnson fits that bill.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2011
... Never asking you for criticism! You scare me worse than my editors haha! Great thread to read through Dave, i get where you're going with the 'soulless' debate. I think thats something that will get progressively worse over time (unless the artists of those mediums really push away from the cgi look, and start to work into the images after!) I've used Poser to some degree, but only really for reference work... never for a final image. For its use of creating a static mind's eye view for artist, its a great tool. Who knows where it will go though!!
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BoobDan Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011
Amen reverend!
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RNABrandEnt Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011  Professional General Artist
Heh. I'd like to know who this person is that asked about Marvel and DC hiring a guy that uses Poser... Funny, the program is called "Poser".

Anyways, I know someone who is doing that to do comic strips and animations. It's sad, really. What happened to artistic ability, maybe it's just a lack of talent and skill, or it is just a matter of laziness.

Either way, it sucks.
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goldenavatar Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011
You're right, it's not your job to deliver back rubs, hot cocoa, and words of encouragement when faced with less than professional work. I hope that you figure out a way to charge for the time you spend offering critiques or feedback on someones work. If I had your skill and experience, I'd have just ignored the inquiry, or simply directed the guy to the various past journals you've written on the subject of the comic book industry. That, or recommended that they read the journals/blogs of your peers. No one needs that sort of headache.
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erdna1 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
As someone trying to get published, throughout original work and mainstream comics, I welcome every critique and comment I can get by professionals, so if you have a couple of minutes, I'd love to hear your words. You can either check my gallery [link] or my blog if you prefer (it has a bit more stuff and it's easier to scroll I think) - [link]
Thank you very much for your time.
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zeruch Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011  Professional General Artist
Denis Leary said it pretty well, "Life is tough, wear a helmet." If I listened to half the criticism I get, I'd be neurotic, and if I didn't listen to the other half, I'd be worse off.

All in all, while one can quibble about the presentation, the root idea of being straight with people I think is a good one.
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